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  Quote danemeyer20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Attack Banana vs Machete GT
    Posted: Apr/06/2014 at 7:02pm
Been a few years since I have been here but hello to everyone. 

So the season is coming to a close and I am looking to grab a new board. It has been a long long time since i got a new one. I make it out for 10-12 days every year or so and have had a 05' ride theory for the past few years. Thing is finally beat and so far the contenders are the two mentioned in the thread title. 

What say you and why? I tried reading up before asking such basic questions on tech that has been around for years but google sucks some times. I have been looking at the magnetraction for a while now and and want something a little less stiff than the current setup but Also heard great things about the Machete GT. 

32 now so park is no longer an big thing for me but i still mess around a bit on the mountain. Main thing is I want all mountain that is fun, can go fast, and whip around in steep stuff with bumps in trees. 

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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/06/2014 at 7:49pm
you might want to try something that is regular camber or a slightly more agressive hybrid for the kind of riding you're looking at I highly recommend checking out the capita TFA and the GNU eco genetics also the jamie lynn classic could be a good option. 
 
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  Quote Lux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/08/2014 at 7:35pm
First off, the Magne-Traction edge serrations on Gnu and Lib Tech are way too extra. It's something better described as near-autonomous steering... it's almost out of control how aggressively and instantaneously it bites into hard snow with almost no effort or technique. 

Honestly, people like to worship Magne-Traction's wild grip on ice; the marketing has obviously paid off. But I often wonder if their carving technique was up to snuff without it, and whether they were better off riding a bobsled on that ice than a snowboard... (What kind of rider deliberately laps an ice run?? We're not Super G skiers.)

Burton's Frostbite and Rome's Quick-Rip edge serrations are very mild and, when combined with good posture/technique, are all you need for that extra bite when needed. Visually, you can barely tell that it's there. I've ridden the same model of Rome snowboards before and after they added Quick-Rip in 2011 and there is a difference. Simply put, they are multiple unblended sidecut radii: the bump on the edge is where two different radii meet. It's perfect... I can't imagine why anybody would want something as absurdly strong as Magne-Traction unless they were attempting to ride a skating rink. 

Arbor's Grip-Tech edge serration is definitely more pronounced than Burton's Frostbite and Rome's QuickRip, but, like them, you still need to activate it by engaging your edge. Arbor's Grip-Tech is an excellent match with their boards because their reverse camber boards are scooped up a lot, really easy to turn their boards, but the serrations go into action and resists the rocker profile's tendency to wash out once the board is rolled onto the edge.

Secondly, the "all-mountain" title is thrown around way too loosely in this industry. By common measure, take any "all-mountain" board on the market with blunted tips and it will basically shovel itself beneath the snow when it hits any sort of powder. You need those tips. The cross-section of the tips has significantly more influence on float than camber profile ever will. This is why something like the aggressively cambered Arbor A-Frame is able to ride so well in powder due to its sheer size and shape. People often counter by saying that you should go deep backseat for powder, but I'm not going to crouch into some ridiculous Chinese Wushu Kung Fu cat stance on my already "all-mountain" snowboard just to stay afloat, and nobody else I know would want to do that either. Next time you're shuffling through boards at the store, keep in mind to look at the shape of the tip.

Machete GT does have a lot of praise to its name, but it's not the all-mountain board that it's marketed as simply because the tips are sawn off and the middle sidecut radius is on the tight side, almost like a park board. The Machete GT is better labelled as a twin-tip freestyle board with good pop than an all-mountain board. If you're loyal to Ride, I'd recommend the Highlife UL over it; tips are lengthened out for way better float, the sidecut is more relaxed for longer carves, and the extra stiffness is desirable if you want a more responsive ride. It's a directional twin: nose has a little more kick and the inserts are set back a bit.

I now ride a Salomon Man's Board. It is as its name implies and, purely by its merits, it's the best snowboard I've ever ridden. It's very similar in design to the Ride Highlife UL; a directional twin, traditional camber, stiffer flex, rides switch almost the same, excellent edge hold, powder masher, and a very strong jump board. The sizing is unique in that it is slightly wider than normal , but it's not quite a mid-wide board. This is a godsend for me because my feet are wide and my boots are big, but not big enough to go into full wide sizes that behave like a dead plank. The cork in the sidewalls has a damp feel similar to that which Ride snowboards have earned a reputation for. The inserts are set back 1 cm, but I centred my stance and ride switch way more than my normal direction (at least 75% switch each day) and the only difference is that the nose is a bit less poppy than the tail, which I later found out was because the wood core is milled a bit thinner towards the nose. I recommend the Man's Board if its attributes are what you're looking for... it's unmistakably a purebred all-mountain snowboard, through and through.

Some examples of similar all-mountain boards are: K2 Happy Hour, Rome Crossrocket, Arbor Element, Capita BSOD (2013 and earlier), and Never Summer Raptor.

I have nothing to say about the Attack Banana.

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  Quote vicente Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/09/2014 at 11:54am
My carving skills are just fine, I just prefer MTX because I don't have to keep my edges razor sharp for those days that are 6 inches of pow on ice 
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  Quote AJD13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2014 at 1:53pm
don't mean to bump an oldish thread, but location also plays a huge factor to whether mag is needed or not.... I just got my first board with mag this year and it has blown my socks off... I'm an east coast rider, and when you haven't had snow in a few weeks(which happens frequently), and the mountain is all crusty, and icey its a really nice thing to have. With that being said... Do i swear by it? No, ill still ride my cambered stick with straight edges, just depends what i'm feeling. But i do like it a lot and i do notice the difference.
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