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Gender: Male
Age: 113
Languages: English
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Years Riding: 20
Average Days/Year: 24
Skill Level: advanced
Riding Style: all mountain
Area of Expertise: general knowledge
Preferred Terrain: powder, park, groomers
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Height/Weight: 5'9, 185 lbs
Board Size: 161
Boot Size: 10
Clothing Size: L
Jacket Size: XL
Pants Size: XL
Thermal Size: L
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Region: California
Location: So-Cal
Resort: Mammoth
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1/27/2012 10:40:31 AM I didn't see this otherwise I probably wouldn't have posted at all--especially since I hardly ever post--but I guess I felt compelled to be the voice of reason and stop all the madness... IDK why though?... Sorry about spoiling your fun VR...
1/27/2012 10:37:54 AM So, are you going to call Union, or should I? [/QUOTE] Yeah, right...
1/27/2012 10:36:15 AM EGG-ZACK-REE.
1/27/2012 10:32:22 AM I can't believe it either... Who'da thunk...
1/27/2012 10:26:07 AM These are JUST Burton Cartels that have been EDITED/PHOTOSHOPPED/WHATEVER with Union and Travis Rice "Logos"--THESE ARE BURTON CARTELS, NOT UNIONS. [/QUOTE] What are you talking about? It says "Travis Rice" right on them. Unless, it was done by some sort of Photoshop wizard, these are legit. [/QUOTE] 2011-2012 Burton Darkness Cartels: http://www.burton.com/mens-bindings-cartel-binding/252176,default,pd.html?start=14&cgid=mens-bindings&gclid=CI7a59rq8K0CFQwzhwodkHgIMA
1/27/2012 10:20:42 AM These are JUST Burton Cartels that have been EDITED/PHOTOSHOPPED/WHATEVER with Union and Travis Rice "Logos"--THESE ARE BURTON CARTELS, NOT UNIONS.
12/1/2011 10:15:48 AM SOLD as of Dec. 1, 2011.
11/28/2011 10:08:47 AM Get up.
11/23/2011 1:18:20 PM Gobble-gobble.
11/20/2011 1:47:37 AM I just updated my original post with some more-detailed pictures that I snapped on Nov. 19, 2011.
11/18/2011 12:38:12 PM PRICE DROP.
11/11/2011 6:07:47 AM SOLD AS OF 11-11-11.
11/10/2011 12:43:21 PM
11/10/2011 12:11:20 PM SHRED ZE GNAR... For those that aren't familiar with Burton ICS (Infinite Channel System) Snowboards, which Burton later renamed as and currently call "(The) Channel" Snowboards, and Burton EST (Extra Sensory Technology) Bindings--I'll try to clarify what I think is important to know about them... Burton ICS/Channel Snowboards utilize two--one for each binding--aluminum channels that are used to house special snowboard binding mounting hardware that can be slid forward/backward in an infinite number of combinations--hence the infinite part of the original "Infinite Channel System" name given to this binding-mounting system/technology. I believe that Burton originally brought ICS to market on their 2007-2008 UnInc Line of Snowboards before expanding ICS into more of their line each year thereafter because of its popularity. I believe that Burton redesigned/reengineered their ICS/Channel Technology--its hardware as well as its construction specifications--for the 2010-2011 season in order to make it easier for other (non-Burton) binding manufacturers' traditional disc-type bindings to be used on Burton ICS/Channel Boards. So there are (now) two different types of Burton ICS/Channel System Snowboards (out in the world today)--the (first) 2008-2010 version of ICS and the current (and second) 2011 and newer version of ICS. Burton EST (Extra Sensory Technology) Bindings are designed specifically to be used (solely/exclusively) with Burton ICS Snowboards and will NOT work on any other type of snowboard--Burton EST Bindings ONLY work on Burton ICS/Channel Snowboards. However, Burton ICS Snowboards CAN be used with traditional disc-type bindings with the correct (adapter) discs.  I believe that Burton originally called their ICS adapter discs "ICS (adapter) Discs" before they renamed them "Retro Discs."  And these Burton-made discs allow for traditional disc-type Burton Bindings to be used on/with Burton ICS Snowboards.  I presume that when Burton redesigned/reengineered the ICS/Channel System that they also had to redesign/reengineer the Burton ICS/Channel-Adapter/Retro/whatever-they're-called Discs accordingly as well. I'm not positive, but I don't think that there are very many non-Burton traditional disc-type bindings that are compatible with the first generation Burton ICS/Channel Snowboards, but I believe that one of the main reasons that Burton redesigned/reengineered the ICS/Channel System was because of this fact and to specifically encourage and partly facilitate other (non-Burton) binding manufacturers to produce their own ICS-compatible discs so that these other (non-Burton) binding manufacturers' traditional disc-type bindings will be able to be used on Burton ICS/Channel Snowboards... Bottom line is that, to the best of my knowledge, any traditional disc-type Burton Binding will work on any 1st or 2nd generation Burton ICS/Channel Snowboard with Burton ICS/Channel Adapter/Retro Discs--beyond that, I WON'T SAY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. I have no personal experience with any Burton EST bindings (I've never used or scrutinized them) nor do I have any personal experience with 2010-2011 and newer Burton ICS/Channel Products (and I've never scrutinized them in-person either). All of my personal experience with Burton ICS/Channel Gear comes from using 2010 and earlier product. SHRED ZE GNAR... Oh and as far as the 2009 Burton Malolo 166 that I'm selling here goes, even though I didn't mention this--because I didn't think that I needed to mention this--but of course the (required) ICS Hardware and ICS/Retro/Adapter Discs (for traditional Burton disc-type bindings) will be included and I have ammended/editted my original post to reflect this.
11/9/2011 9:56:32 PM I just PM'd you (in detail) Joe... But to answer in-brief, I'm 5'9"/185# and I rode it at its 2"-back reference-stance location after first trying it at 1"-back for an hour or so and not liking it...


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