"Lib Tech TRS-A Do It All Stick! I own 2." 11/13/2009
Name: 2010 Lib Tech TRS BTX
Pros: Forgiving, Floats, Rides Bigger, yet smaller than its size!
Rode Libs like 15-18 years ago, later I was picked up by Flow (yuck), then Salomon and rode everything in between for 2 decades. Was looking for an addition to the quiver that was diverse enough to handle an assorted array of riding conditions without compromise. Demo'd a bunch of sticks and was set to buy another board but the Lib Tech Rep was visiting my local, family owned store and commanded that I give the TRS a try before I buy. Geezus! In my 20 yrs of ripping snow, this board represents the most progression in riding that I've ever personally experienced. I was amazed at how easy this board crushed any terrain with ease and with far less expenditure of energy! It floats pow like a board 5-10 cm's longer because of the shape,yet rips hard pack like a shorter board and is able to establish 45+ degrees of edge angle due to the Magna Traction (if the rider is capable). I broke my 160 park board and took my 167 TRS (yeah-a monster)into the park and pipe a few times and was shocked at how easy I could rotate the beast. Therefore I added a 159cm TRS exclusively for the park and ice, the board is that good. Stiff where it needs to be, and the 2010 TRS is just a bit stiffer than the 2009. It still combines a perfect blend of board flex, pop and edge hold to make even the silliest of riders look much better all over the mountain. For an old man, less energy expenditure means more backcountry hiking followed by park play time from lift opening until the lights are turned off. If you are looking for one board only for all of your riding, I very highly recommend looking at the Lib TRS instead of something more one dimensional like the Skate Banana. You won't go wrong!
Pros: Handles the gnarliest stuff you can throw at it, Very fast when charging on it, Does what it's designed for very well
Cons: Not for the meek or beginner, Too Stiff for play riding, Not a do it all type board
5'9 210 lbs advanced rider over 20 yrs:
Chose Billy Goat 165 over T.Rice 164.5
•Stiff Board-the stiffest in my quiver
•Quick, light, flickable turning stick
•Turns much easier in tight trees in deep powder than the 167 TRS
•Demands to be ridden very fast and in a very hard charging manner.Don't baby it, instead-charge it! The Goat performs best when ridden to the rider’s limit, always.
•Not for the beginner or intermediate-unless you want to beat yourself up
•Floated over everything when ridden fast. Conditions were from:
oBottomless to 18 inches untouched, light powder depending on run or hike
oTurning to heavier untouched powder later in the day
oChopped up powder on day 2
oGroomers back to the lift lines
•Even on the chopped powder conditions, the Goat floated seamlessly above the chop, seemingly to just float over the top, smoothing out the ride and feeling more like untouched powder versus riding the 162 TRS in which I could feel every nuance of the topography.
•When turning the Goat hard and using tilt, it would just slice through the crud (love new edges in some situations). Requires power to initiate quick turns.
•The Billy Goat’s stiffness does give feedback to the rider if it’s packed powder or firm, choppy off piste conditions. Torsional twisting requires moderate ankle force. For a C2BTX it turns very well on hard pack too. If you are focused on off piste riding, back-country, narrow chutes, powder lines in the trees, high speeds, charge faster than your friends, need to turn like a Ferrari and have a powerful riding style, this board is a dream come true. NOT FOR BEGINNERS! You and I probably won’t ride like Temple if on one, but you can appreciate his style evident all throughout this model!
did you ever consider the fact that it appears stiffer is because your riding a 165cm. Im 5'9 185 and I ride a 156 and am droppinmg down to a 154. Its a Banana camber combo you should have no problem making that flex..
Cons: Slightly on the stiff side for pure freestyle, Boot tongue slightly hard-numbs top of foot, May loosen during riding
Shoe Size: 10
Boot Size: 10
Was researching for a single pair of Mid Flex-Do It All boots to replace my trusty 6 season old, packed out, rotted stitching Rides. First item of notice is the large foot print of this boot. It was much larger than the boot it replaced. I wear a size 10 and these boots are as large as another brand's size 12. I had to adjust my Medium Burton bindings all the way out. When the current market trend is a smaller boot print, especially in a Mid-Flex boot, this Celsius model goes in the opposite direction. The sturdy construction is well built; however, heavy and like I mentioned-makes for a large boot. Initially I felt that this boot was too stiff for smooth style in the park, but just about right for protection during big mountain steeps and back country drops. After about 5 days, the boots seem to break in well and the self molding liners took shape to my feet. The boots became more apt in the park and perfect for all mountain. The fit is spot on but after 5 full days of riding in them, the boots are not near as comfortable for all day use as my last (way beyond broken in) pair of boots. If you are looking for Freestyle only, I would pass on these boots. If you are looking for All Mountain or Freeride footies, this Celsius may work fine. I'm looking forward to a few more days in them hoping that they will soften up some more and I'll see an increase in comfort. Remember, these boots have a large foot print and my Size 10's have a footprint more like a Size 12; you could get in a position of needing a Mid-Wide board to accomodate them.